tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466288276801812505.post4961982744436023837..comments2023-11-16T16:45:02.759+00:00Comments on A Lost Place: The Darlton Rant (6th May 2009)AngeloComethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05303083576143373383noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466288276801812505.post-24572265076700636582009-05-11T23:27:00.000+01:002009-05-11T23:27:00.000+01:00Ugh - I'm seriously dissapointed that that video w...Ugh - I'm seriously dissapointed that that video wasn't canon. <br /><br />Now that Daniel is dead I was perhaps thinking it was Miles' voice that was heard in the background, but now that I know it's not canon it's really annoyed me. I mean, what was the point of them showing that to us if they weren't going to use it?! <br /><br />Grrrr :(<br /><br />I won't even start with the Libby thing...Emzihttp://www.lost-isle.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466288276801812505.post-61988691437319904132009-05-07T18:02:00.000+01:002009-05-07T18:02:00.000+01:00On board here with the rant, and the rants in the ...On board here with the rant, and the rants in the comments. I'll still watch the remainder of the show for whatever answers we get, because I've already invested years in watching. The letdowns and unanswered mysteries they insisted on introducing but not wrapping up, is a damper on the total impact.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466288276801812505.post-52654989836541195732009-05-07T17:44:00.000+01:002009-05-07T17:44:00.000+01:00Damn, I don't think I've ever seen such hostility ...Damn, I don't think I've ever seen such hostility from you, AC. <br /><br />We may never find out all the answers. At this point I don't care.<br /><br />I've invested a lot of my time into this show as have many others, and I too get a little miffed at "Darlton" for their flippant attitude. <br /><br />Will I quit watching? Hell no! I mean, I stuck with BSG until the bitter, dumb, convoluted ending (my opinion). So I won't give up on this show either. <br /><br />"Show" is the keyword there folks. It's just a show.shamballahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09447980038597506582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466288276801812505.post-85457448322580274682009-05-07T17:37:00.000+01:002009-05-07T17:37:00.000+01:00I think they screwed themselves by wanting to end ...I think they screwed themselves by wanting to end the show at Season 6. If they included another season, then they could have easily tied up all the mysteries/missing information that all of us want answers to. No way can they address the 8-10 major mysteries (what is the island, smoke monster, food drops, whispers, Richard, Jacob, the Black Rock, statue, child abduction, Walt, etc.) we want answers to. They would need to answer 2 mysteries an episode over Season 6...it would be watered down and suck in my opinion.Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12961785255136702393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466288276801812505.post-34739780590623907002009-05-07T11:36:00.000+01:002009-05-07T11:36:00.000+01:00I guess I enjoy those same qualities in Darlton to...I guess I enjoy those same qualities in Darlton too but if your gonna get up there and shit and giggle and tease fans with what turns out to be non truths at least deliver shows that we can get excited about. I like your spinning the wheels analogy. How cheesy are the gun fights and no new characters are interesting. Rad and chang are boring. The only guy I got interested in was that dude that slipped Sayid the sick LSD that had him talking. Most disappointing for me so far is no Black Rock this season. I thought they would go there this season and possibly to Egypt for the final season. But we got stuck with jumpsuits instead. The way the show paces itself I wonder how many Major mysteries they will leave to us to figure out.<br /><br />And a good rant does unite and help to purge the bad stuff. I feel much better now thanks ACAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466288276801812505.post-71488544810865195352009-05-07T08:29:00.000+01:002009-05-07T08:29:00.000+01:00Corellian - Good news about "the plan". There's a ...Corellian - Good news about "the plan". There's a one-off BSG special called 'The Plan' in production - due to be aired towards the end of this year. It features a lot of the main cast and is even being directed by Edward James Olmos (Admiral Adama to you!) so I have high hopes for it. You can no doubt look it up for more info.<br /><br />And yeah, those food drops do need explaining. And the child abduction. Though the way they left Walt last makes me wonder if they're ditching him (which is RIDICULOUS if so).<br /><br />As for those numbers - it would have been better for them to never have tried to explain them. They worked better as an unexplained fateful force in the Lost universe hanging in the background.<br /><br />Anonymous - I've always liked Darlton, their mischievous qualities and wry humour. They work well together and it shows. But I think you're right - somehow they've managed to deliver a Season 5 that has the 'wow' factor on paper every episode, and somehow it's missing the mark on screen.<br /><br />I've also had enough of people being revealed to be someone's mum or dad. It's actually becoming a joke. And when it's revealed the person usually deliberates over it, and some bizarre music cue plays as they deliver the 'surprise' as though we're supposed to fall off our sofas in astonishment.<br /><br />The biggest failing for me is having the characters split for so long. The show works best when our main characters are altogether and either creating drama between themselves or having outside influence bring about new intensity. This Season we've either had some of them on the Island and the rest of them in the real world - or they've all been on the Island, separated by thirty years. As such, we know they'll get together eventually (looks like Season 6 now) so until that happens the show is spinning its wheels, farting around with the idea of whether or not you can change history - a scientific argument that better have a major payoff in the finale otherwise they've really wasted a lot of time. (Pardon the pun.)<br /><br />Ah, nothing like a good rant to unite disgruntled Lost fans!AngeloComethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05303083576143373383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466288276801812505.post-48535775902987845492009-05-07T01:26:00.000+01:002009-05-07T01:26:00.000+01:00I was thinking here...what about the numbers beein...I was thinking here...what about the numbers beeing related to the Valenzetti equation. Was that just a bunch of crap also? Just promo to tease the fans and have they creating a hell lot of theories for nothing?<br /><br />Because, i mean... so far, they have NEVER mentioned anything about this at the show. There was never not even a beginning of a plausible explanation for the numbers. And even now, when we saw they forging it into the hatch, it was like it was any other sequence of numbers, and not the parameters of an equation that predicts the end of the world.Corellianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01879839636851698906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466288276801812505.post-28951198572504827092009-05-06T23:27:00.000+01:002009-05-06T23:27:00.000+01:00Well I never trusted these guys and always looked ...Well I never trusted these guys and always looked at the stuff they did away from the show as hearsay. I find it productive to read into peoples body language more than the words that come out of there mouth and these guys body language screams out that they thoroughly enjoy messing with the people that enjoy the show the most. As matter of fact they relish in it. This show (if we all want to get real honest with ourselves for a moment) has gone absolutely nowhere this season. The only real episode that gave me that old whats in the hatch lost intrigue was 'The Life and Death of JB". Anyway IMO these two have not handled the success of the show well at all and hopefully they have a big rabbit to pull out of a big hat. #8 rabbit preferably.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466288276801812505.post-66875364931864614582009-05-06T23:00:00.000+01:002009-05-06T23:00:00.000+01:00There's also the food drops.
Oh, and I woudn't m...There's also the food drops. <br /><br />Oh, and I woudn't mind to know more about Radinzky and the crazy stuff he did on the Swann (like cutting movies, painting maps and, why not, killing himself...)Corellianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01879839636851698906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466288276801812505.post-12208056590615201212009-05-06T22:58:00.000+01:002009-05-06T22:58:00.000+01:00Man, i´d spent the WHOLE FUCKING WEEK talking abou...Man, i´d spent the WHOLE FUCKING WEEK talking about Lost with my friends saying that Faraday can´t have died (although I think it would be much better for the story if he did) because of that damn video. And now they say it's promotional?!?!? Oh, fuck off. Will they have the guts to create another ARG after this?! Because, if this video doesnt appear on the series, they just lost ALL the credibility they had with information outside the tv show. <br /><br />----------------------------<br />So far we got:<br /><br />-The Black Rock<br />-Jacob<br />-Richard Alpert<br />-Adam and Eve<br />-Christian (and by extension, Claire)<br />-The Whispers<br />-The Statue<br />-Smoky<br />-Swann related stuff<br />-Why 815<br />-What the fuck do the Others want (reminds of a fraking series that used to say "And they have a plan!". I still waiting to know what plan was that...)<br />-What is the Island<br /><br />I would like to add:<br /><br />-What is up with the child abucdtion<br />-WALT!! (and if they don´t give one hell of a plot to him, i'll be fucking pissed off)<br />-The other special powers (Desmond, Miles, Hurley...)<br />-That "game" between Widmore and Ben<br /><br />I´m probably missing something...Corellianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01879839636851698906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466288276801812505.post-6660893436135952312009-05-06T22:03:00.000+01:002009-05-06T22:03:00.000+01:00good rant,ive thought about lost a lot for the pas...good rant,ive thought about lost a lot for the past few years and now that were getting these half assed/ and sometimes no answers for things i spent weeks thinking about is pissing me off and making me dislike the show.. -trollAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466288276801812505.post-19937841327310379502009-05-06T21:25:00.000+01:002009-05-06T21:25:00.000+01:00All in all Lost is my favorite show. It will prob...All in all Lost is my favorite show. It will probably go down as my favorite FICTION televesion show ever (Nothing will ever beat Band of Brothers for me)....so all ranting aside, I still have faith in the end game. <br />However Darlton is part of what had always drawn me to the show....they seemed in control, seemless and very true to there fans...however, not the case this year...so like you concluded...I'm a little worried tooAcharaisthekeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00030529545899739445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466288276801812505.post-38071977628298889212009-05-06T21:14:00.000+01:002009-05-06T21:14:00.000+01:00With so many questions, I was bound to miss a few!...With so many questions, I was bound to miss a few! Give me a break! =^)<br /><br />I've often wondered about why they have someone push the button. It would be very easy to write a script that outputs the numbers and 'presses' Enter and set it in a loop to occur every 108 minutes? It would be more reliable than a person, unless there's a power outage. And if that happens, they're pretty much screwed anyway. <br /><br />Somewhat off topic: I read an interesting theory about Richard on Lostpedia. It suggested that Richard's role is similar to the Panchen Lama, who is second only to the Dalai Lama in their sect. The theory goes on to suggest that he has been seeking Locke as his replacement and Jack is in fact the true leader. (no, I'm not giving up on Jack being the leader) =^)Garetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05055799075771599467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466288276801812505.post-24152999048599141412009-05-06T18:21:00.000+01:002009-05-06T18:21:00.000+01:00Not interested in learning about the Black Smoke, ...Not interested in learning about the Black Smoke, Garrett? Heh!<br /><br />I would also add in the purpose of The Others (though this could tie in to Alpert/Jacob0.<br /><br />And, perhaps most importantly, what the Island is.<br /><br />I wouldn't mind a full explanation about The Swan Station - why entering the numbers was used, what would have happened had the Fail Safe not been pushed, and what occurred when Eko, Locke and Desmond were in there when the Fail Safe did get turned!<br /><br />Achara - Completely agree with you about the NO SHOCKS, thing. If anything, I have felt like Darlton have actually pandered more to Lost fans than ever before - throwing in fan-pleasing moments and obscure characters coming to the fore (NO ONE gave a shit about Ms. Hawking before Season 5!). So their snub of what the fans are clamouring after seems even more bizarre. If they wanted to be single-minded about it they shouldn't play to that crowd.AngeloComethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05303083576143373383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466288276801812505.post-76169036083197198762009-05-06T17:51:00.000+01:002009-05-06T17:51:00.000+01:00I'm guessing and feel confident the Statue will be...I'm guessing and feel confident the Statue will be wrapped up by the finale and that Adam and Eve will be solved in the final scene of the show.<br /><br />Alpert, Jacob and Christian should all have major fill ins by the end of this season. I worry about how cheap they make the Black Rock story!!<br /><br />My big question is WHY ARE THE 815rs there in the first place. If they fail to make that important tie in to all of the show, I'll be pissed!Acharaisthekeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00030529545899739445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466288276801812505.post-18680298900119805152009-05-06T17:38:00.000+01:002009-05-06T17:38:00.000+01:00Yeah, I'm with you. Its complete bullshit! They're...Yeah, I'm with you. Its complete bullshit! They're either canon or they're not. There's no 'kind of canon.' This is an either/or, true/false, black/white situation. There are no shades of gray. If they were meant solely as promotional tools, I have to say they failed miserably. Ask the average viewer about this the Lost Experience or Find 815, and they'll have no idea what you're talking about. These "promotions" were meant to give clues to the serious "Lostites." Now you're saying that the people who spend time on these games were wasting their time? Because I guarentee that the vast majority would not have bothered with it if you said from the outset that they weren't canon. <br /><br />And why bother saying it was promotional and not really canon? The video hasn't contradicted anything we've seen so far, unless that really was Daniel's voice. As of right now, we're to believe he is dead, so that couldn't be his voice. So there was either a change in direction with Daniel's character or they're trying to cover up that Daniel is alive. Reading the entire interview, they're definitely trying not to give anything away. And the best way to keep something secret is to not say anything at all. Neither confirm or deny ANYTHING. If you deny some things, but refuse to talk about others, then you're basically admitting that the refused subject still has a part to play. <br /><br />I'm very disappointed that they won't explain Libby's backstory, but I also understand that they can't tie up every lose end. I think the writer's strike really hampered how much they were going to tell. One can only hope that after the series ends that they'll produce a book or have a special feature on the DVD that explains all the lose ends. <br /><br />Assuming that Ilena's group is the advance guard for the war Widmore mentioned and the writer's follow that storyline, we only have 17 episodes to start and resolve the war, tie up the important lose ends, and conclude the series. That's quite a bit to cover in 17 episodes! What do you think are the most important lose ends to cover? In no particular order, I hope they cover the following:<br /><br />The Black Rock<br />Jacob<br />Richard Alpert<br />Adam and Eve<br />Christian (and by extension, Claire)<br />The Whispers<br />The Statue<br /><br />I would also like to know more about Jack's tattoo from Achara and the mystery of the numbers, but I don't think they'll cover them. What mysteries do you want revealed and which do you think won't be?Garetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05055799075771599467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466288276801812505.post-25838325080700639022009-05-06T17:28:00.000+01:002009-05-06T17:28:00.000+01:00Nice Rant! That interview was by far and a way th...Nice Rant! That interview was by far and a way the worst interview they've done since i've been following them. Coupled with there Charlotte mess, this season has been horrendous for them...they can make it all right with a good finale, and let us steer towards season 6, but their interviews/podcasts have been a mess.<br /><br />Now, I will forgive them on the Faraday thing...not there explanation, but that we all assumed it was Faraday, I'm o.k. with it not being Faraday (though cheap...I only hear the name LaFleur..so I can accept it).<br /><br />The Libby thing...for reasons's you've laid out...UNFORGIVABLE. I don't remember off the top of my head but they handled another question in similar matter.....<br /><br />I personally think this whole season has been a mess. I can't stand how they've handled Walt, Desmond, Jin, Locke's conversation off island with the 06 and let's face it, the 06 stories were all VERY VERY WEAK!! They can still tie some nice mystery loose ends and make it all work with the finale. However, the nail biters or SHOCKS have been NO SHOCK AT ALL SHOCKS (Young ben wasn't going to die, locke would find a way to live, Pierre is miles dad, Charles was Daniels dad, etc...). Just a mess.<br /><br />I think the island events have been good...but honestly, I expected the complete PAST of the island and 815 stories to PAST to be wrapped up. This crap with Walt, and now saying Libby wasn't important is horshit!! like you said she gave Des the boat to get to the island, her husband was named DAVE? and they made her Hurley's love interest...anyways...<br /><br />All can be forgiven with a good solid final 3 hours of Season 5...however, what I fear the most...is that EVERYTHING CHANGES! I will have a hard time watching season 6 if 815 does not crash on that damn island!!<br /><br />I like your RANT here...that interview just seemed very rushed and like they didn't want to DO IT. They should know it is those interviews and interactions that keept he show afloat...not ratings...to screw us over like they are with the Libby deal (and walt...have I said how they've screwed us with walt...) is very dissapointing!!Acharaisthekeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00030529545899739445noreply@blogger.com